On Success Beneath the Surface, this is a curated collection of the most impactful conversations from the first quarter of 2025. This playlist features transformative discussions with leaders who have mastered the art of building thriving organizations through unconventional wisdom and authentic leadership. Join host, Deborah Fell, as she explores the hidden dynamics of successful leadership with extraordinary guests including Eddie Solomon, who built Net at Work from immigrant roots to serving 5,000+ businesses; Jeff Ostenso, who’s reinventing family business leadership at Ironmark; and Ray Hatch, who boldly grew profits while intentionally cutting revenue at Quest Resource Holding Corporation. You’ll discover Scott Jackson’s counterintuitive “follower of leaders” approach that helped Global Impact channel $2.5 billion to global causes, and Joe Yaccarino’s insights on building a culture of everyday heroes that transformed MTF Biologics from 100 to 1,400 employees while performing 500,000 transplants annually. These conversations reveal the uncommon threads that connect truly exceptional leaders: empowering others without micromanaging, balancing innovation with scale, building cultures that embrace individuality, and creating environments where trust transcends into faith in what’s possible. Whether you’re scaling a family business, transforming an organization, or seeking to unlock your team’s full potential, these episodes offer practical wisdom for leading with purpose in today’s complex business landscape.

To celebrate Women in Tech Day, Tessa Burg is joined on Leader Generation by Elli Dimitroulakos, Head of Ad Product and Innovation at Media.net. As a trailblazer in the ad tech industry, Elli shares her journey through transformative roles in media, TV, DSPs, broadcasting, publishing and podcasting. She discusses how embracing change and fostering cultures of innovation have fueled her success, even when faced with resistance. Elli’s insights into balancing human-driven innovation with data-backed decisions offer practical strategies for leaders navigating today’s fast-evolving tech landscape. Listen in as Elli explains how Media.net is revolutionizing ad tech by bridging the gap between publishers and advertisers, using search intent data to deliver more efficient and personalized targeting. From overcoming resistance to change to fostering diverse thinking and leveraging AI for better collaboration, this episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone looking to lead through innovation.

Rooted in Revenue has a packed episode. Lany Sullivan sits down with Mark Cleve, who shares his remarkable 32-year journey with Tom James, the premium custom clothing company that’s grown from $119 million to over $600 million during his tenure. Mark reveals the business philosophy that has guided his success: “You don’t build a business, you build people and people build a business.” From his early door-to-door book-selling experiences to becoming a trusted name in custom clothing, Mark offers powerful insights on why clothing matters, how to build systems that scale, and why the ultimate business legacy is reliability. Discover why Mark has only lost clients for three reasons: how the right clothing creates both confidence and respect, and why he believes that dressing appropriately for occasions shows respect for others. Whether you’re in fashion, sales, or any client-facing business, Mark’s practical wisdom on creating “consciously competent” customers who trust you completely offers a blueprint for building your lasting business legacy.

Over 60% of the workforce is made up of working parents. The challenge of navigating parenthood while managing work duties can lead to higher rates of presenteeism and absenteeism among the working parent population. As a working parent himself, Han Kulberg. Co-Founder and CEO of Avocado Health, joins The Granite List Live to discuss how he was inspired to create this solution and the benefit it provides to working parents by providing them with a reliable source of information and support.

Deacon Brett gave us a lot to think about to humble ourselves. Judgment is a very dangerous thing. I’m not talking about judging choices, attitudes, or actions, but judging hearts. Condemning and dismissing others. Ridiculing and dehumanizing them. Using them. When we do that, we put ourselves in God’s place — and God takes that very seriously. Only God can judge the heart because only God can see the heart. Let’s remember that when we’re angry or frustrated or annoyed this week — for the sake of our relationships and for our own sake.

We hope you enjoy these and the rest of this week’s playlist.

Success Beneath the Surface from Chief Outsiders, hosted by Deborah Fell

Guest: Eddie Solomon, Jeff Ostenso, Scott Jackson, Ray Hatch, Joe Yaccarino

EP101: Success Beneath the Surface: Leadership Insights from Q1 2025


Leader Generation from Mod Op hosted by Cheryl Boehm

Guest: Elli Dimitroulakos

EP120: Women In Tech – Elli Dimitroulakos On Leading Innovation


Market Dominance Guys, hosted by Corey Frank, CEO Branch 49, Chris Beall, CEO ConnectAndSell

Guests: Josh Smith, CEO, CRO Connected and Gerry Hill, VP EMEA, Growth Strategy & Alliances, ConnectAndSell

EP252: Birdies & Bookings – Taking Cold Calling Out of the Office


Rooted in Revenue hosted by Susan Finch & Lany Sullivan

From $119M to $600M: Mark Cleve’s Fashion Business Growth Strategies

Guest: Mark Cleve, Division Vice President, Image Consultant, and Executive Clothier at Tom James Company


All-Volunteer, All Heart from Binky Patrol Comforting Covers for Kids

Guest: Cynthia Luvlee, CEO and Founding Director, Shyne

EP78: From Rescue to Empowerment – A better model for survivor support


Sales Pipeline Radio from Heinz Marketing, hosted by Matt Heinz

Guest: Marcus Sheridan, Author of Endless Customers, Keynote Speaker, and Partner at IMPACT.

Becoming the Most Known and Trusted Brand in Your Market: A Roadmap to Endless Customers


The Granite List Live from Connect Healthcare Collaboration hosted by Sally Pace and Leigh Dill

Guest: Han Kulberg, Co-Founder and CEO of Avocado Health

Support Throughout Parenting Lifecycle


Know, Grow, Go! from Holy Trinity Catholic Church in Beaverton, OR – Fr. Bill, Fr. Anthony, Deacon Brett

Only God can judge the heart