Aaron Grando guest hosts on this episode of the Leader Generation Podcast, where we explore the fast-growing world of “vibe coding” with Joe DiGiovanna, VP of Technology, and Fabio Fiss, head of the DX team at Mod Op. If you’ve heard the term “vibe coding” floating around but aren’t quite sure what it means—or how it applies to real-world development work—this is the conversation you need to hear. Aaron, Joe, and Fabio break down how AI-powered coding tools are transforming developer workflows, empowering non-coders to create, and reshaping how teams build prototypes and scale projects. From Cursor to Claude and beyond, they share hands-on experience and stories from inside Mod Op. Whether you’re a seasoned dev, a tech leader or just curious about how AI is changing the game, this episode is a great primer on what vibe coding is—and where it’s headed.
Deborah Fell reflects on one of the most powerful leadership insights from her conversation with Jonathan Moody: the radical humility of a CEO who built his success by recognizing he didn’t need to be the central force driving everything. When Jonathan became CEO of Moody Nolan in January 2020, just before the pandemic, he made a crucial decision to create an executive team structure rather than trying to fill his legendary father’s singular leadership role. In this brief yet impactful commentary, Deborah explores how Jonathan’s approach challenges the traditional CEO archetype and why his vulnerability and team-first mindset have become the foundation for navigating unprecedented uncertainty. For leaders struggling with the pressure to be perfect or those building their executive teams, Jonathan’s story offers a refreshing alternative to the lone-wolf leadership model.
What does it really take to grow in sales—and in life? In Part 2 of this Market Dominance Guys episode, Chris Beall continues his conversation with Will Post of Branch 49. They dig into what it means to “deepen your bag”—adding tools, sharpening your thinking, and building a future through relentless conversation practice. Will shares his shift in mindset, from just setting meetings to connecting value and asking better questions. Along the way, he offers one powerful suggestion: go outside and ask someone a question. It’s not about scripts—it’s about starting. This episode is a reminder that communication isn’t disappearing. It’s evolving—and it’s being practiced every day by the next generation of great sales leaders.
Susan Finch heard Aaron Grando drop the term “pretotypes” on Leader Generation this morning and had to hit pause. Three minutes in, she realized she’d been vibe coding for months without knowing there was a name for it. But pretotypes? That’s when she knew she had to get him on the show immediately. We’re talking about taking your stream-of-consciousness ideas and building working drafts before you’ve even figured out what you want. For business owners doing $0.5 to 10 million a year, this isn’t just another tech trend—it’s the shift that stops you from waiting weeks for simple prototypes. Aaron’s VP of Creative Innovation at Mod Op, and in this spontaneous follow-up to his Leader Generation episode, we dig into what vibe coding actually means for your bottom line and why small teams are suddenly punching way above their weight class.
On The Granite List Live, Bill Hepscher, Founder, and Casey MacPherson, CEO, of RxManage join the show to discuss their international approach to pharmacy. With the increasing discussion about international pharmacy amid recent tariff talks, Bill and Casey help answer some of the most frequently asked questions about international sourcing.
Fr. Bill wraps up this playlist with reminders when it seems dark and stormy all around us. We appreciated the reminder. He says, “When we praise God in the midst of our storms, we’re declaring that He is still in control – that darkness has not overcome the light. Praise pushes back against the darkness and becomes both a weapon and shield, guarding our hearts from anger, hate, resentment, and the desire for revenge or retaliation. It’s okay to cry out or be angry with God; He can take it. Even Jesus sweat blood in His anguish. By reaching out to God in our pain, we’re reminded that we are not alone.”
We hope you enjoy this week’s playlist.
